The F I D O N E W S Volume 30, Number 44 04 Nov 2013 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | | | | FidoNet community. | | Netmail attach to (POTS): | | | | | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-960447) | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Netmail attach to (BinkP): | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:203/0 | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | | | \_______\(_| /_) | Email attach to: | | _ @/_ \ _ | bfelten @ telia dot com | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. EDITORIAL ................................................ 2 Announcement ............................................. 2 3. FTSC INFORMATION ......................................... 3 The INO4 flag ............................................ 3 4. JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST .................................... 6 The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project ....................... 6 5. FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ...................... 7 FidoNet Software References .............................. 7 6. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 12 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 12 7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 14 How to Submit an Article ................................. 14 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 16 FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 1 4 Nov 2013 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- The Intellectual Property Paradox ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 2 4 Nov 2013 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Announcement Please be advised that Fidonews HQ will be closed from November 4th to November 11th because of anniversary celebrations. This means that issue #45 will be 24 hours late, and that contributions to that issue will have limited time for proof reading and/or reformatting. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 3 4 Nov 2013 ================================================================= FTSC INFORMATION ================================================================= The INO4 flag Publication: FSP-1038 Revision: 1 Title: The INO4 flag. Author(s): Michiel van der Vlist Date: 3 November 2013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents: 1. Introduction. 2. The problem. 3. The solution. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Introduction --------------- The InterNet is running out of addresses. To solve this problem it is slowly migrating from 32 bit addresses (IPv4) to 128 bit addresses (IPv6). The conversion is largely transparent for the user. When querying the DNS system to resolve a host name, an IPv6 capable system initiating a connection will look if an AAAA record is present and use the IPv6 address if that is the case. If not, it will use the IPv4 address. There is no need for a nodelist flag to signal IPv6 capability, the lower layers will handle it transparently. 2. The Problem -------------- Presently all IPv6 capable nodes in the nodelist also support connectivity over IPv4. So there is downward compatibility. At present IPv4 only nodes have no problems connecting to IPv6 capable nodes, they just connect via IPv4. We can however not expect that situation to last forever. While the number of IPv6 capable nodes grows, IPv4 connectivity will eventu- ally degrade. Some day there will be nodes that no longer accept incoming connec- tions over IPv4. At best they will be behind a GGNAT or Carrier Grade NAT. That is a NAT operated by their ISP, so they will have no control over the port forwarding tables. At worst they will have no IPv4 at all. Either way, these nodes will not be reachable by nodes that do not have IPv6 capability. Attempts to connect will fail and most mailers will just repeat the attempt at regular intervals until the sysop intervenes. At present there is no way to predict such a failure beforehand. FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 4 4 Nov 2013 To avoid this undesirable situation I propose a flag that indicates that an otherwise IP capable node does not support incoming connec- tions over IPv4. 3. The INO4 flag ---------------- INO4 Indicates that an otherwise IP capable node is unable to accept incoming connections over IPv4. 4. Considerations ----------------- Although NOIPV4 would be more clear, it goes against the custom that all IP related flags start wit the letter 'I'. It is also needlessly long. Someone suggested to use IPV6 with the definition of "IPv6 only". This is bound to be misunderstood as other capability flags have always meant "in addition of". V34 means an additional V34 capabi- lity, not "V34 only". X75 does not mean "X75 only". Using IPV6 with a definition of "IPv6 only" will raise confusion and hence improper use . Note that in the very long run as IPv4 gradually fades out, we may reach a situation where most of the IP capable nodes in the nodelist will carry this flag. If and when this happens, the Fidonet communi- ty may consider dropping this flag and marking the minority that still accepts incoming connections over IPv4 with an IPV4 flag. References ---------- [FTS-5] "The distribution nodelist", Ben Baker, Rick Moore. February 1989. Obsoleted by FTS-5000. [FTS-5000] "The distribution nodelist". FTSC Members, Administrator and Honoured Guests Dec 2012. [FTS-5001] "Nodelist flags and userflags". FTSC Members, Administrator and Honoured Guests March 2013. Contact Data ------------ Michiel van der Vlist Fidonet: 2:280/5555 E-mail: pa0mmv at vrza dot org E-mail: administrator at ftsc dot org History FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 5 4 Nov 2013 ------- Rev.1, 20131103: Initial Release. Principal author Michiel van der Vlist. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 6 4 Nov 2013 ================================================================= JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST ================================================================= The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project This is a list of known JamNNTPd servers working. They are essentially the modern version of Bulletin Board Systems. You connect to them using the email client of your choice and you don't need any other software installed on your computer -- regardless of operating system -- but that favourite mail client of yours. Even smart phones can handle this, giving you the opportunity to get your daily doses of fidonet on the bus, tram or train on the way to your job, school or whatever. Updated 2012-03-11 URL news://felten.yi.org Join http://felten.yi.org/join.html NETMAIL Yes, 2:203/2 URL news://the-estar.com:1119 Join http://www.easternstar.info NETMAIL Yes, 1:123/789 URL news://quinnspost.dyndns.org:60119 Join mailto:eskimo261@bigfoot.com Join Info in group +GETACCESS+ NETMAIL Yes, 3:640/384 URL news://nntp.rbb.bbs.fi Join Info in group +GETACCESS+ NETMAIL Yes, 2:221/361 URL news://news.wpusa.dynip.com Join Info in group +GETACCESS+ NETMAIL Yes, 1:3634/12 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 7 4 Nov 2013 ================================================================= FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= -=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=- Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |MI |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 | | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889 | | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |http://binkd.grumbler.org/ 2:463/69 | | v0.9.10 on Oct 2nd 2008 D'Bridge |MTCPE|http://www.net229.org/dbridge.htm 1:1/130 Nick Andre |I | v3.95 on October 13 2013 FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280 Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net | | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/ | | v1.4 RC5 on Apr 24th 2006 Mystic BBS |MTBCE|http://www.mysticbbs.com |I | v1.10 A31 on Apr 13th 2013 Radius |MI |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38 (based on Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463 | | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005 Taurus |MI |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70 | |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English) (based on Radius) | | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru | | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004 Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608 | | Website is in Russian only WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204 Software, Inc. | | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004 FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 8 4 Nov 2013 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org | | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.10 FMail |T |http://sourceforge.net/projects/fmail/ | | 1.66.0.33.gpl (2013-10-17) JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000 Squish |T |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/ | | Lanuis site redirects to above | | Squish is part of Maximus. +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net | | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222 ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com | | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002 Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org | | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final Maximus BBS |B |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/ | | v3.03 | |Archives back online at: | |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/ MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802 Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004 Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net | | groberts@nexusbbs.net | | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002 | | [Note: No Longer under active | | development.] Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be | | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002 RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120 Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | v2.62.2SW Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150 | | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999 Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net | | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net | | v3.10L Beta FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 9 4 Nov 2013 Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net | | support@telegard.net | | v3.09g2 SP4 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/ | | Last Update: August 2004 Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net Sean Dennis | | sean@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200 DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201 Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org Ruth Argust | | DoorMUD |D |http://doormud.com | | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002 | | Website is down after | | past the splash page. Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com | | scott@jibben.com | | 1995-99 Release dates John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com | | support@johndaileysoftware.com Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | | nannette@shiningstar.net Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com | | Tel: (404) 256-9518 The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | jpritch@eisonline.com | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002 Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013 Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org | | last update: Jul 17th 2002 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de 2:2426/1210.13 | |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm | | (English Version) | | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de | | v1.25 CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only) | | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999 FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 10 4 Nov 2013 FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460 | | support@freexp.de | | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot) OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004 | | (Site is in German Only) | | mk@openxp.de v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004 | | Download Page comes back 404 not found. +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ GoldEd+ |E |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/ | | 2:5080/102 | | stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net | | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003 SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de | | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999 TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet | | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed | | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ FidoIP |MTPEIU|http://sourceforge.net/projects/fidoip | | Maxim Sokolsky 2:5020/828.777 | | v.0.5_1 on Jan 11 2010 GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com | | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997 Ifmail |UI |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net | | crosser@average.org 2:5020/230 | | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway | | Program. Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/ Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806 (Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001 MakeNL |U | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl | | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com | | Fido: 1:229/2000 | | FidoNet Nodelist Processor Meltdown-BBS |UI |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/ | | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan | | @spamgourmet.com | | Fido: 2:350/5 | | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <-> | | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system. RNtrack |U |http://sourceforge.net/projects/ftrack-as | |2:5080/102 | |stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 11 4 Nov 2013 | | v1.1.4 Snapshot on Oct 09 2009 TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | | transnet@ressl.com.ar | | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998 TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard Communications, Inc.| | Unsure about support now but Free Keys | | are now available. Donations accepted. | | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program) Turquoise SuperStat |U |http://www.softwolves.pp.se/sw/ | | software/turquoise | | peter@softwolves.pp.se | | Version: 3.0 on 2008-01-21 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/ (in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings) +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ File Archives: http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.net http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu Note: most also provide FTP access (use ftp:// instead of http:// above) *=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=* Please send corrections & additions to: Fidonews Editor Emeritus: Robert Couture, Ben Ritchey, Todd Cochrane, Frank Vest, Peter Popovich ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 12 4 Nov 2013 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.305 size 296.8kb date 2013-11-01 The nodelist has 1950 nodes in it and a total of 2926 non-comment entries including 4 zones 35 regions 226 hosts 186 hubs admin overhead 451 ( 23.13 %) and 285 private nodes 102 nodes down 138 nodes on hold off line overhead 525 ( 26.92 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 152 ( 7.79 %) 9600 = 1149 ( 58.92 %) (HST = 17 or 1.48 %) (CSP = 0 or 0.00 %) (PEP = 1 or 0.09 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.09 %) (V32 = 564 or 49.09 %) (V32B = 46 or 4.00 %) (V34 = 774 or 67.36 %) (V42 = 629 or 54.74 %) (V42B = 51 or 4.44 %) 2400 = 9 ( 0.46 %) 1200 = 2 ( 0.10 %) 300 = 638 ( 32.72 %) ISDN = 143 ( 7.33 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 563 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 13 4 Nov 2013 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 0 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 0 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 0 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 15 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 48 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 594 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 730 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 1060 ( 54.36 %) MailOnly nodes = 924 ( 47.38 %) Listed-only nodes = 136 ( 6.97 %) Other = -170 ( -8.72 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/2] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 30-44 Page 14 4 Nov 2013 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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